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FooserX  
#41 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 9:22:18 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post
Yes you don't exceed time limits but when you think your taking 5 seconds, you're prolly actually taking 3.



I gotta side with Jedi here.

The time starts when the ball enters your area, but a lot of people start their internal clock once they get the ball set up. That can be a 2 - 5 second dispairity sometimes. I can't remember who I spoke with, I think it was Robbie or Cheez? And they said most people get their roller set up around 5 seconds. That gives the shooter 10 seconds. I would think a pull shot is even deeper into the count. Same concept on the 5...most people take 3-5 seconds just to corral the ball and begin the toss.

I'm sure if we did start using clocks, there would be "time" calls nearly every game, especially on the 5.

That said, I doubt anyone wants to ref time all night long. It's not a regular problem. I know I get questioned on my 3 bar here and there - I just make a mental note to not go too long. On the few times someone has called a ref on me, there has never been a call go against me.

It's not a problem at Bonfire, but if anyone feels they are being cheated, please let me know.

X
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Slice/  
#42 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:26:12 PM(UTC)
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Of course you would Scott but it doesn't matter. He can't go with the clock in his head to make official calls in a match. He should call for a ref and get a timer.
I've timed people before with my phone stopwatch while watching a match and there has been times where they went past but for the most part it was within time limits.
Jedi makes it sound like it was happening a lot on Friday but he is a fast player and fast players usually count fast.

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Master jedi  
#43 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:51:11 PM(UTC)
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Yes you do METRO BITCH.. I've watched you before at Ecks, and BC's many times. And for the record i do have a Foos Ref.. That's how i know BITCHES.. i have trained my inner clock..plus i play music, and I know the drums.. So i know how to count out a drum beat in the head,, thus un like YOU, I have spent some good years in front of a metronome.


Ancient Jedi secret!

if you reach 13 on any rod count, then you are fucking close, especially the 5 rod, and if you reach 13 on the other rod counts, then about 3 heart beats later its 15 seconds, which BTW is the expired number, since 16 is beyond the COUNT on a foos ref...
SOOOO technically 14 seconds is all the time you have on the front 3 and goalie..
and also, 9 seconds is all you have on the 5 row.. because 10 is the expired time by 1 second... Sooo if i count to 13 on your 5, THEN YOU ARE TAKING TO LONG, if i count to 18 on the other rods, THEN YOU ARE TAKING TO LONG... And that's giving 3 seconds of space time for any human error on the count..one inhale and exhale later, you just hatched a Chicken egg, because you took to long sitting on the ball..


jedi

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DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#44 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:03:24 PM(UTC)
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stopwatch.onlineclock.net

It's a good way to check how good your internal clock is.

No ref no call. I just get a ref on people who I think try to go over on purpose, most players don't imho.

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1e and a 2e and a 3e and a 4

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Master jedi  
#45 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:09:39 PM(UTC)
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can you tell me slice, HOW IN THE FUCK CAN A PLAYER GO PAST THE TIME TIMIT AND YET BE WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT AT THE SAME TIME..
what did you say.. They went past the time limit, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS WITHIN THE TIME LIMITS..

no wonder your clock is fucked up.. Ill make sure your never an official on my match.


jedi
Master jedi  
#46 Posted : Tuesday, December 22, 2015 11:26:06 PM(UTC)
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Here slice try this for your game.. Record a match of a 3 out of 5 games. Then go back and foos ref your games and see where you are at.. But then at that point you are going to be aware that you are timing yourself in the match.. So then will have an un natural timing in your game that you would not normally have if you were not timing yourself..

generally players are more thinking about time when a clock is running, compared to when they are not being timed..


jedi

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Slice/  
#47 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:01:59 AM(UTC)
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Fuck off David! You don't know and I've never been called for a time violation the rare times I've had a ref. I know X is your groupie but ask him and Knappy about whether a ref is needed for me. Now X will tell you that I whine too much but I find it odd that he hasn't told you already on this board right now. This is why I ignore you and I'm officially back to that status. Dumbass!
Master jedi  
#48 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:26:21 AM(UTC)
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You do whine too much, why do you think i call you a Metro Bitch. I cant post a thing without you being the first to rebuttal what i say..

i lay out the facts to you about something, and the first thing you do is wanting to trash me and argue with me about what i say.

yeah, ill listen to you, THE DAY YOU OWN ME ON THE TABLE!



777  
#49 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:27:10 AM(UTC)
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I've never noticed Jim taking too long on any rod (insert dirty joke here). If Jim needs any kind of ref, it's a ref to keep him from whining. I can only think of two people who are occasionally guilty of taking too long. One is a rookie and the other is an amateur, and they're both cool, so I doubt it would be an issue.
Oh, and old man Tony maybe...but he doesn't count.
777  
#50 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:30:56 AM(UTC)
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I hope that someday I get called for taking too long on the 3.
Carter  
#51 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:24:31 AM(UTC)
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Ignore Chester. He can't help himself online. He means well, but is too much of a shit brain to explain himself properly.
Slice/  
#52 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:27:25 PM(UTC)
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Trashy, I will call you on time the next time I see you go over 15 seconds, per game! Don't recall ever seeing it happen though Speed Trasher! Watch out, too late!
DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#53 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:11:15 PM(UTC)
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^Hehe-

And for the record, I have never even had a reset called on me.

Obviously I've never had a time call as well, adhd won't let you play that...

Oh look a squirrel.

fast/er...slow


TrashyNoJar

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Dubs  
#54 Posted : Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:52:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Master jedi Go to Quoted Post

can you tell me slice, HOW IN THE FUCK CAN A PLAYER GO PAST THE TIME TIMIT AND YET BE WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT AT THE SAME TIME..
what did you say.. They went past the time limit, BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS WITHIN THE TIME LIMITS..

no wonder your clock is fucked up.. Ill make sure your never an official on my match.


jedi


Are you familiar with Schrodinger? He knows this cat who can be both past the time limit and within it.
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