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DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 3:14:21 AM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 4:04:16 AM(UTC)
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lol - yeah I got on the table and did a few things too. I can only imagine the uproar it's going to have when someone busts out a mini hook or 2 bar push kick to start the game.

A dumb rule all around.

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Master jedi  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:55:15 PM(UTC)
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Since when does the ball start on the 2 rod to start the game?

unless one lost the ball behind their 5 and became dead, then I could see the first shot being a push kick from the 2 rod.

Personally in my study of the game, I think it gives the offender that much more of an advantage that the shooter already has at a players disposal.

how about a rule that gives the defender some advantage for a change.. Like any shot is no good if it jumps over the goalie 3 rod and goes in. In other words, every shot must be made under that rod at all times to score a point. Jumping the ball over the 2 rod is no issue since you have the Goalie Tender to Block the bouncing ball.

The aerial shot is illegal, and that shot went over the rods!



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FooserX  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:05:09 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Master jedi Go to Quoted Post

Since when does the ball start on the 2 rod to start the game?



Anytime the ball goes off the table, the opposing goalie gets to start the game with the ball on his 2 bar.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:53:19 PM(UTC)
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lol - or 2 bar push kick to start the game.

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That has to be a Push Kick started from the Pull side or that used the Goalie to set it to the 2bar....right?
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777  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 16, 2015 8:17:50 PM(UTC)
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Right...so a quick reverse, or "PPK"
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Slice/  
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:35:42 AM(UTC)
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So let's look at this ball off the table scenario. The goalie hand sets the ball on the 2-bar push side, goes through the ready protocol, moves it from the push side guy to the pull side guy to set up a pull shot, waits anywhere from over 1 second up to 15 seconds, and then shoots a pull. According to the new rule, is this legal or illegal?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:03:43 AM(UTC)
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Illegal by my understanding, unless the third man advancing the ball only applies to the 5 bar.

I haven't read the new rules all the way through though...
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#9 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:27:10 AM(UTC)
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I believe that would be illegal, Jim.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 5:19:53 AM(UTC)
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That's what I'm thinking but it is something that I see done a lot normally that would have to be changed by goalies.
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Master jedi  
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:22:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post
So let's look at this ball off the table scenario. The goalie hand sets the ball on the 2-bar push side, goes through the ready protocol, moves it from the push side guy to the pull side guy to set up a pull shot, waits anywhere from over 1 second up to 15 seconds, and then shoots a pull. According to the new rule, is this legal or illegal?



Its Not any more illegal, because that is what we do now to put the ball into play, because once you touch the second man the ball is good to go to shoot.

The difference now is that you don't have to stop the ball any more.

continued...im ✅Ing something first.


I guess after every one acknowledges to be ready, a player can shoot a 2 player figure shot from the set position to the goal, without having to touch two men and stop the ball..

you can not do a one man shot, but a two man shot can legally be hit.

shit I don't know, I'm just guessing..lol



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Master jedi  
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:56:00 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: FooserX Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Master jedi Go to Quoted Post

Since when does the ball start on the 2 rod to start the game?



Anytime the ball goes off the table, the opposing goalie gets to start the game with the ball on his 2 bar.




I thought you were saying to "Start the game" as in the first move of the game..

we all know the game starts from the five man, but anything after that is a continuance of the game, not the start of the game.. You don't start the game many times, you can only start the game once...

One reason I say this, is because the game doesn't "STOP" untill the match is over, So to say your starting the match or game, when eight points etc have already been made is just not the right figure of speech...

just saying...although I know what you meant, its all good X



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Slice/  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 17, 2015 3:29:02 PM(UTC)
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The rule states that you can't advance the ball with the second man so in my scenario which is done quite often under the old rule, the shot would be illegal.
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DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#14 Posted : Saturday, December 19, 2015 4:40:38 PM(UTC)
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Advance the ball on the third hit on the 5 row.

In other words, when you say you're ready, you'd better be ready, because
the ball can be advanced very quickly either to a pass or a hack.

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Slice/  
#15 Posted : Saturday, December 19, 2015 4:54:19 PM(UTC)
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Definitely Trashy and the forward better make sure that his goalie is ready before nonchalantly saying ready.
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777  
#16 Posted : Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:43:26 PM(UTC)
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I'm in the habit now of checking with my goalie before I say Ready. By the way, I was watching Brubaker and Boogie playing a singles match last night, and Mark definitely has some sweet quick hooks and passes. I think this new rule could especially affect singles matches in the future. (Boogie was able to get the win)
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#17 Posted : Sunday, December 20, 2015 10:47:43 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 777 Go to Quoted Post
I'm in the habit now of checking with my goalie before I say Ready. By the way, I was watching Brubaker and Boogie playing a singles match last night, and Mark definitely has some sweet quick hooks and passes. I think this new rule could especially affect singles matches in the future. (Boogie was able to get the win)



i always do this and most times the other team thinks im talking to them whether i am the one being asked or the asker myself
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Master jedi  
#18 Posted : Sunday, December 20, 2015 11:51:22 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post
So let's look at this ball off the table scenario. The goalie hand sets the ball on the 2-bar push side, goes through the ready protocol, moves it from the push side guy to the pull side guy to set up a pull shot, waits anywhere from over 1 second up to 15 seconds, and then shoots a pull. According to the new rule, is this legal or illegal?



Speaking of 15 seconds, also speaking of 10 seconds as a matter of fact, but back to the 15 seconds rule.. Since that's the rods that has more effect in the Match.

I have seen a lot of players go beyond the exceeded time limit, and its been everywhere, 5 row, forward 3, and goalie for the most part..

i tallied off 11 players this last Friday nite, that was guilty of exceeding the time limit on one rod or another many times in a match..
come on guys, you are supposed to be the best players in the........?

Better start practicing getting that internal clock in your heads ticking back on time, or ill be winning matches that way, because you had to forfeit the ball a half a dozen times in a game.

Its hard to break a bad habit, and that one is crucial..

just saying...so take heed


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Slice/  
#19 Posted : Monday, December 21, 2015 1:25:17 AM(UTC)
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Yeah your internal clock only works when the point is in your favor. I'm remembering Rocky Mountain Open on Fireball when your internal clock wasn't used by you on your beginner goalie that swung and missed on 4 shot attempts before scoring on 19 or 20.

Better get a foos clock and a ref if you're planning on making time calls.

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Dubs  
#20 Posted : Monday, December 21, 2015 4:56:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Master jedi Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post
So let's look at this ball off the table scenario. The goalie hand sets the ball on the 2-bar push side, goes through the ready protocol, moves it from the push side guy to the pull side guy to set up a pull shot, waits anywhere from over 1 second up to 15 seconds, and then shoots a pull. According to the new rule, is this legal or illegal?



Speaking of 15 seconds, also speaking of 10 seconds as a matter of fact, but back to the 15 seconds rule.. Since that's the rods that has more effect in the Match.

I have seen a lot of players go beyond the exceeded time limit, and its been everywhere, 5 row, forward 3, and goalie for the most part..

i tallied off 11 players this last Friday nite, that was guilty of exceeding the time limit on one rod or another many times in a match..
come on guys, you are supposed to be the best players in the........?

Better start practicing getting that internal clock in your heads ticking back on time, or ill be winning matches that way, because you had to forfeit the ball a half a dozen times in a game.

Its hard to break a bad habit, and that one is crucial..

just saying...so take heed


jedi


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