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race-2/5  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:53:48 AM(UTC)
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I have a way for us to support our local players on tour or at least a start. We will be holding a race to the World Championship points race beginning the first Thursday in January and ending two weeks before Worlds.

Points are as follows
1-Point for entry
1st place beg, am 6 points ex, pro 5 points
2nd place beg, am 5 points ex, pro 4 points
3rd place beg, am 4 points ex, pro 3 points
4th place beg, am 2 points--------------------

30 to 34 weeks of play at $7.00 with the $2.00 per player going into a pool for DYP and Singles. Estimated DYP split would be around $1,100.00 and around $800.00 for the Singles Champion.

Winners of the DYP would split the cash 60% Champion 40% 2nd place. Catch is If you cant go then the next inline would get the $ minus 30% Champion FEE. We are wanting to help out the local players on tour and think this just might work.

PLAYERS FOR THE PLAYERS
This is not set in stone I'm thinking out loud and looking for input not BS.
Bolson  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:45:46 AM(UTC)
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I think that sounds awesome!
jediR.O.T.N.  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:42:33 AM(UTC)
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I support this idea because it falls into a coarse well known to me. It appears it is time to step out and to make a major dent on being T.R.O.T.M...Do the samething that Daniel layed down all year long..

Holy shit did he ever lay a spanking on this state or WHAT!


Jedi

Edited by user Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:10:07 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Big Ross  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:34:49 PM(UTC)
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I love this idea, this would give a TON of local players more incentive to show up regularly.

Would it be just at Americas? or make it a Boulder/BC's/Americas thing?

Either way, I would love worlds to be payed for if I won it... I would also happily contribute $2 a week to a CO foos badass to go on tour when they otherwise might not be able to swing it.

Love the idea Tommy.

We are playing another money match next time I see you. I need revenge after you embarrassed me last night.
race-2/5  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:58:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Big Ross Go to Quoted Post
I love this idea, this would give a TON of local players more incentive to show up regularly.

Would it be just at Americas? or make it a Boulder/BC's/Americas thing?

Either way, I would love worlds to be payed for if I won it... I would also happily contribute $2 a week to a CO foos badass to go on tour when they otherwise might not be able to swing it.

Love the idea Tommy.

We are playing another money match next time I see you. I need revenge after you embarrassed me last night.


If all 3 America's, Attic, and BCs did this we could send 3 players every 4 months to a major or 3 majors and a trip to Cancun as Grand prize.
DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:03:52 PM(UTC)
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Welcome to Cancun Mr. Mares, Mr. Moore or _____?( Fill in the blank.)


TrashyThePlane
race-2/5  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:50:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DJ Trash-O-Matic Go to Quoted Post
Welcome to Cancun Mr. Mares, Mr. Moore or _____?( Fill in the blank.)


TrashyThePlane


That's why its a point race because these guy's only come out every 6 months or so. Your right this was a bad idea.. I was thinking of ways to get new players to tour and help those who can't afford it.



FooserX  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:12:19 PM(UTC)
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So how do the points work?

At the end of the race, a DYP and singles tourney is held, and the only way you can play is to have pre-qualified with enough points? Is there a set amount of points that get you into the final DYP and singles? 20? 30?

What if everyone just got 1 point for attendance, and that was it? Then everyone would have an equal chance.

I think it's a sweet idea, but I'm an expert who has a decent shot at winning. It's a good investment. If I was an AM or below...not sure I would like funding someone else's trip to worlds.

Also, it might be nice to be able to pick your tour event. Maybe Bart O or TX State would be better and cheaper to hit. Ending it 2 weeks before worlds doesn't allow a lot of time to book a cheap flight either.

Just my thoughts, but I'm not 100% clear on how it works. Wish I lived close to there, and didn't have class...if it were at BC's I'd definitely be all in.

X

Edited by user Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:17:13 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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DJ Trash-O-Matic  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:23:21 PM(UTC)
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I think it's a great idea! I was just having a little fun. Trashy

Edited by user Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:24:56 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

jediR.O.T.N.  
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:23:28 AM(UTC)
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The only disadvantage for some players, having the points race in three locations. Is that there are some that cant go to Boulder on a Tuesday or Friday at BCs because its a BYP, and its not easy to always have a P' on a weekly steady run. Now if BC ran a singles event, then it would be 2/3rd's balanced.

And Davin would have to make adjustments adding a singles event to balance out the 3 mentioned locations. Some players are more geared and stronger in a singles format, like myself. And all there is is America's to battle singles at this time. I can only make it to two locations, so that cuts me out from earning points at the Attic when I could place for = points across the board in three locations. Besides my busiest business days are Mon-Tuesdays. So thus, America's offers double's and singles so that location would be my hot spot for
my point's

Now I approve this idea, but two of the locations are not equally balanced out
in the S/D events department to make this work with equal opportunity for most players. There are players out there that have the game to be in the results three times a week if they can hit the three locations every week. Sure feel sorry for Mark Kraus, Pimp, Rippin, etc, etc,myself included.

Since this is a singular objective point race designed for the one top point winner. Then we need at least one more singles event somewhere. "That simple" Because if most players can only play doubles to earn points, then that causes conflict of interest among players down the line battling for over all points. Example) if I and Sticky drew eachother 8 times out of 12 weeks, and lets say we finished 1st in 5 played events, 2nd in the remaining 3 cumulative weeks. We would have the same equal points. I helped him with his and he helped with mine. and just for the sake of argument, the other 4 weeks that we played we just didn't fair so well. But here is Sticky and jedi tied at 37 points each.
This is where it gets down to the nitty gritty. I or Sticky would have to play the getting out more to play card, just to acquire more added points than the other player, that we both were responsible for the points we gave eachother throughout the weeks. Now it becomes a strategical plan to hit a location were the other player cant make, to get a lead on the other top players points. Now its not about whos the better player that rightfully earns being the top point winner. It becomes then a matter of hitting more tournament nites.

Now lets consider our Colorado's warm up events, like the CIVIL WAR event in Febuary... RACE POINTS SHOULD ABSOBITCHINLUTELY BE APPLIED!

And what about Bob's location?. Are there any Expert players that play there?. Do any of them have the skilled game to compete with the favored Top 10 players that have the force to take home a tour ticket? I say this because ive never recalled but just a few named players among maybe two dozen players that have battled at Americas and BCs when I was there. So im left to assume that the general level of rank would be Amateur down to beginner. In fact if im right, a player that plays at Bob's recently won a SINGLES TITLE.
So I would assume that hes been putting the table time in playing singles, to be
able to win a state title. Yeah" wraps off, Hands down to you.

Now im not sure if there's singles events there, but Bob's location needs to have both S/D events on their nite. If they do already id be more inclined to hit that arena during the weekly rotation of hitting 3nites a week.. Wed-Thur-Fri...
Bob's American BC's and in that order.

So after weighing the ins and outs with how everything is now as far as location events. It would cost me roughly 240.00 a week three days straight to establish a good starting foundation of hitting the bell in top points.

So again, without more singles events across the board. Then this would be more about who can get out more to play, than about who is the better player at the table in their field of rank.

But what I really think is grand about this POINTS RACE is that every ranked player in their leveled rank has an opportunity to rub one out for a tour ticket.

It sure would be nice as Hot Flaming Heat to have the "Who's Hot" results up and running with black and white logged in accountable filed results..



Jedi

Edited by user Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:47:59 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Slice/  
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:51:16 AM(UTC)
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Me, me, me...blah, blah, blah.

Me, me, me...blah, blah, blah.

I think the whole idea is to get more players out to play more, not try to help just a player or two.

Get off the selfish high horses already!
777  
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:17:05 AM(UTC)
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It appears that Slice read Miller's post. It also appears that X is claiming that he has class.
bigcity  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:22:23 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 777 Go to Quoted Post
It appears that Slice read Miller's post. It also appears that X is claiming that he has class.



Haha

Slice/  
#14 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:10:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 777 Go to Quoted Post
It appears that Slice read Miller's post. It also appears that X is claiming that he has class.


I don't know, I read Scott's post as he didn't have class!
jediR.O.T.N.  
#15 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:29:16 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post
Me, me, me...blah, blah, blah.

Me, me, me...blah, blah, blah.

I think the whole idea is to get more players out to play more, not try to help just a player or two.

Get off the selfish high horses already!



ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!...LIKE FUCKING REALLY!....IF ITS BLAH, BLAH, TO YOU, THEN START TAKING SOMETHING FOR THAT, A.D H.D CONDITION THAT EFFECTS YOUR LACK OF ATTENTION SPAN FOR MORE THAN FIFTEEN SECOND'S ON THE TABLE OR THIS FORUM.

I GUESS YOU BLINDEDLEY SKIPPED OVER THE OTHER NAMES I MENTIONED IN MY POST.. SUGGESTING ITS NOT ALL ABOUT jedi, AND YEAH I USED ME AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR I KNOW WHERE I STAND WITH PLAYERS AND RANK...FOR IM NOT GOING TO USE YOU AS ONE. BECAUSE IN TRUE PROSPECTIVE, YOU ARE A ZERO THREAT AGAINST ME ON THE TABLE. YOUR TOTAL GAME IS WEAK... AS A
SINGLE PLAYER, AND DOUBLES IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET PAST 4TH POSITION. PROVIDED YOU HAVE A PARTNER THAT CAN BACKPACK YOU TO THIRD OR BETTER. AFTER ALL, THE TRUTH IS, ISN'T THERE A JIM T AWARD STRICTLY NAMED AFTER YOU, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEEM TO GET PAST 4TH PLACE WITHOUT SOME HELP TO LAND YOU IN THE MONEY.

AND YOU SPEAK OF THE WORDS SELFISH HIGH HORSE LIKE IM 6 FEET FROM THE GROUND IS THE HIGHT IM STANDIND FROM. IM NOT SITTING ON A MR ED SHIT DUMPING HORSE. IM SITTING ON A BLOOD THIRSTY ROARING T-REX POSITIONED WAY OVER YOUR HEAD LOOKING DOWN. THATS NOT BEING SELFISH OR ARROGANT WITH AN EGO, ITS THE HARSH REALITY BETWEEN YOU AND I. THE TERM "IT IS WHAT IT IS, YOU JUST CANT TOUCH ME IN THE RESULTS DEPARTMENT LIKE A SNOWBALL CHANCE OF SURVIVING IN FLAMING HELL.. PERSONALLY LEMMON SLICE, YOU DONT HAVE THE FUCKING RIGHT TO SPEAK OUT ONE WORD TO ME. IF YOU WANT TO SNAP BACK, THEN SAVE YOUR STINK WHEN IM ACROSS THE TABLE. OTHER THAN THAT" GET THE FUCK OFF ME ON THIS FORUM.BECAUSE I DONT DIG FAKE PEOPLE. YOUR JUST ANOTHER METRO BITCH THAT ACTS LIKE ONE. SO IF YOU DONT WANT ANOTHER REBUTTAL IN YOUR FACE. THEN GET A FUCKING CLUE

ME, ME, SELFISH HIGH HORSE. "LIKE FUCKING WHAT"!


Jedi, slicing off a piece of reality

Edited by user Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:58:45 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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whozur  
#16 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:56:02 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post


I think the whole idea is to get more players out to play more, not try to help just a player or two.




It is a great way to get players out. Its also a great motivation to practice show up and try to win one of 4 or 5 money slots.


Count me in. I've been saving my winnings since state to put towards the next tour stop I can afford. I'm already up a few hundred bucks! Additionally, this would be a nice year end bonus to win a paid trip to worlds.

Call me selfish slice cuz I'm in it to win it! Singles and doubles.
Old Sweater  
#17 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:38:32 AM(UTC)
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I like the way Tommy has the points set for top 4 only. With 30-34 tournaments, even the luck of the draw should even out, plus the 1 attendance point becomes a push.

ROT(Ruler of Trip) Yeah Baby!

FWIW- try to keep this thread civil.
BigBaller  
#18 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:40:16 AM(UTC)
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Tommy you're killin me Bro!

Slice was talking about Millers post. That was self guided as all his posts are.
race-2/5  
#19 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:56:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BigBaller Go to Quoted Post
Tommy you're killin me Bro and not just at foosball!

Slice was talking about Millers post. That was self guided as all his posts are.


Rotn and slice are not the same person?
Slice/  
#20 Posted : Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:12:58 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: whozur Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Slice/ Go to Quoted Post


I think the whole idea is to get more players out to play more, not try to help just a player or two.




It is a great way to get players out. Its also a great motivation to practice show up and try to win one of 4 or 5 money slots.


Count me in. I've been saving my winnings since state to put towards the next tour stop I can afford. I'm already up a few hundred bucks! Additionally, this would be a nice year end bonus to win a paid trip to worlds.

Call me selfish slice cuz I'm in it to win it! Singles and doubles.


Get more players out. Singles and doubles. Enough said. You get it Mark. I hope you win sponsorship!
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