Why is it considered brilliant and smart play when Peyton Manning uses a hurry up
offense to take advantage of the defense and keep them on their heels?

But in foosball you're considered a "Bar Hack"? Where in the rules
is it said that the "Bar Hack" has to wait on their opponent to be ready in transition?


DJTrashyCurious

Your analogy would be more accurate if in it, Peyton did the hurry up every snap while the defense was already totally set.

X

No D substitution = genius!

Said what?

It's on sucka

;*p

Poll:

Who is the best Bar Hack in CO?

Jedi?
Trashy?

Lets make this match happen!! :D


I kid, I kid, I kid, I kid.

I think I'm the only on on the board who recently has said the term "Bar Hack", so I think I need to fill in more info. I don't consider you a hack. Do you?

Trashy, come visit your sister in Breck. We will go out for a night of foosing, and I will show you some true "Bar Hacks". They play foos all the time, but there is nothing refined about their game. Rules don't mean much to them. They'll jar every single pass you do, and bumpers are broken on most tables because of their rough play. They might even use stimulants to try to make themselves play better.

Lets make it happen, it'll be fun.

NLRK

Trashy, come visit your sister in Breck. We will go out for a night of foosing, and I will show you some true "Bar Hacks". They play foos all the time, but there is nothing refined about their game. Rules don't mean much to them. They'll jar every single pass you do, and bumpers are broken on most tables because of their rough play. They might even use stimulants to try to make themselves play better.

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That didn't bother Roger at the Sloan Lake TableSteaks. It's a bar, bar rules apply.

Who is the best bar hack in Colorado?

Well here is my opinion. Now most would think and consider my style of play to be a bar hack style format of play. But the true reality is that, IT IS NOT! Foosball originated within a bar scene when it was introduced to the common public. Think about how long the game has been around. I remember seeing the game played on_________________ Here ill leave it blank to see who can fill in the name of the table. During those begining day's, who really knew what the game was truly about. Who ever heard of a, wrist rocket, snake shot, or what we call it now, " Rollover." in those begining days.
But I would only be left to assume that if foosball originated in our homes, then the term at hand now days would be "House Hack" or Home Hacker. it sounds funny doesn't it ¿ but so does "Bar Hack.

Now back to the term HACK. Within all the 40+ years of study and performance on the table. And In my best analysis of the term hack would be. A player that just hits the ball with no reason or rhyme behind it. No structure to any part of hitting the ball. Just as NLRK/Sweater mentioned about the begining players that jar the ball off your men.

Continued) post the second half later!

When I first decided to really study the game. It was in 1979. Id already had played on all Tournament Soccer tables by then. Brown top million dollar table was the table then. But I think a BLACK TOP would have been the" king shit" with a white ball back then. Even now for the Tornado, black top would be a great contrast with a WHITE TORNADO BALL. just throwing that out there for future thought.
When TORNADO was introduced to me, I knew then that was the ultimate design for the game. And this is what I did. While the game went two separate direction's in the 80s, 1 the professional world as we all know about that, and 2 the beginning faze when a new player is exposed to the mechanic's of the game, otherwise known as bar hacks.

Now when the professional world of the game went on, I stayed home and studied the game, applying diagrams with coloured pencils right on the surface of the table field. I drew out everything that was standard basics, offensively and defensively, then drilled on applying it.

Shots

PULL
PUSH
PULL KICK
PUSH KICK
STRAIGHT
ANGLE
BANK

Passing

WALL
BOUNCE OFF
LANE
ANGLE OUT
ANGLE IN

Defense on goal

PULL RACE
REVERSE RACE
PUSH RACE
REVERSE PUSH RACE
THREE MAN


Forward 5 rod Defense

CENTER COVERAGE
NEAR WALL COVERAGE
FAR WALL COVERAGE

Forward 3 rod Defense

THE SEVEN DOTS OF COVERAGE

Along with all the basics of offense and defense came ball control with endless variations, from front pinning to back pinning the ball. Side foot taps, you name it, we've seen it.
I drilled and worked on everything and anything on what it took to influence the ball to target the goal, no matter where the ball was, at any given moment from 1 second to 15..

(Continued) last debate on hack posted later!

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Cool info Walter! Thanks for sharing. I am a fan of the games origins!

First table in Pueblo I played on was at Porky's on N Elizabeth in 71. It was a 21 year old joint and some bikers took exception to teenagers playing foos, they asked us to leave, so we did and never went back. Then a bit later in 71 TS was put in a lot of the 3.2 joints, Giuseppe's, Saint George and the Dragon, TJ's and some others. 25 cent foos(11 balls) and 30 cent draws. TS was also in Lyons 73, Breck 73-74 at the ? Angel, the Moose Inn in Frisco had a table I don't know the make of and I believe the Wheel Bar in Estes had a TS, not to sure. There wasn't no foosball tables in Cañon City? Then no foos for me until the Winners Circle got a TS, then later a tornado during the middle 90's. Then I met you guys in 1997-present.

During the late 60's and early 70's. There was a St George and the Dragon here in Greeley on 8th ave along with a location named,The Pull Shot" they had three Tournament Soccer Blue Top table's. Then later Funland arcade was the foosball scene that got me rolling in the game. I was close friends with the owner and management. Jackie Hill would set me up with a round bank bag of Tokens every week for five bucks. After adding 5 coins for a dollar, I would generally have 40- 70 dollars in tokens every week, for the duration of fifteen years. Till the owner sold the place. The tables played on tokens and I was a foosin.

Nothing really happend in Greeley untill Shelly did the foos scene at the Family Fun center in the early first years of the 90's. Then that died off untill the days of "U.C.B" and The "Smiling Moose"during the turn of the century. Then popped up Scooters Hosted by Bob Grasser, that we lost sometime later sad to say. The place changed names and it became Ricks libation. Later on Rick Committed suicide and that location fell like a rock after our lost fallen warrior Bob Grasser.

And then "The Study Hall. and we all know the times of those days. Now during these last 7 years later we have the T.S.K.&B.B. running the scene. Foosball in Greeley has been silent for about the last 7 years.
Where a player named jedi travels elsewhere to battle.

No need to give history of FortCollins that was before T.S.K.& B.B. because we all know that history, like the back of our hands.


JediR.O.T.N. teacher

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